During the hour we discussed Pilar's unique path from Bogotá, Colombia to the Department of Education at Mizzou.  As the Director of the International Research Center for the Development Education (CIIDE) in the College of Education, a joint effort with the University UNIMINUTO in Bogotá, she met Dr. Abadio Green Stocel, indigenous professor, who is coming to Columbia Nov. 19, 2019 to share his acclaimed Pedagogy of Mother Earth. When you look at rich soil, what color is it? Yes, black. Black is the color of the womb of the earth. Enjoy our fascinating conversation.